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  What I Believe

  by SickofLies in

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  it doesnt say it was written by god.

  but if i was bad i could say it was written by god.

  this was written by god.

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  nice to see you sick of lies. was just listening to your tapes a few days ago. i'm sure those dopes don't bother you any longer. john
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  Getting DF'ed next Thursday -- hold me!!

  by JimWood in

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  we are finally free, monday night we had our witch hunt.

  they tried to get us to confess to anything.

  we came to the jc thinking that we would be talking about the un material that we passed out.

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  jim ; i only read the first post on this thread. and have been keeping up on your story as best I can. this is what i'm talking about RABID JW'S, THEY COULD CARE LESS WHAT , YOU RESEARCHED . OR YOUR PERSON. it's just out the door with no honest truthful answers. i show no respect for such DOPES. you will be fine. john
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

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  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  restrangled; it easy, i hold jw's to thier conduct. i work jw's in the street. they are not going to walk away thinking they won. or understand the bible. you just have to be there to understand. i can go either way. but they are not going to shit on me . b/c i know what they are going to say before they say it.; that's the difference. then once they say it i ask them if they are counting time,? for preaching a false gospel . it's childs play. it a court of law as you work in . the judge would laugh at them in 5 minutes. blue sapphire bring out some good points. it's the consent presure at the halls that what they preach is truth. and when dealing with rabid jw's you have to tell them 100x's more that what they heard at the hall is bull crap. it sometimes breaks down to who can stand the opposite pressure more . you have to break rabid jw's to wake them up. i stick with the same line every time with my jw dad. "you know the wt are liars , dishonest. lets go over last week wt mag and see how many lies and b/s i can find it the first page? and you can for sure back it all up as truth. you did the research on everything your handing out door to door. at this point a jw knows they haven't researched every quote in this wt. b/c i point to things i know they didn't research. IE. something in the l.a. times or from stalin. did they look it up at the public library. to make sure the way the wt is twisting it . is correct . never met one that did. but they wiolol go door to door saying they tested everything in this mag they handing you as fact.. when you hold them to this they fold like a cheap tent , it's so easy. then it's the jw's that gets pissed off becuase you just proven tghem as a lair in 2 minutes. don't blame me3 for thier incompendence./ john
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

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  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  doubting bro; take it one day at a time. your family is very important. i'm sure if i met you out in field service. i wouldn't think of you as a rabid jw. i think we would talk for a long time. and i can plant seeds on most any wt topic. i welcome you and all the other new posters. looking for peace of mind. the internet is a hard place to get to understand someone. when i talk to jw's in the street i can sense in a few minutes. if they are just out doing f.s. to please their family. but not really into it. or if they are RABID JW'S, hope you can understand what i'm talking about. john
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

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  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  yes now i recall auld soul help out 7 jw's and i applaud his work. truely a great feat. i hope he helps out 7 more. i'm not as wild and crazy. as many think here from my posts. i have spent 100's of hours talking to jw's one on one. using logic wt's, bible , and plan old history. from the public library. to discount some of the faulty wt teachings that everything is worst since 1914. i don't do this on the internet, i work in person , or over the phone. i will spend as much time with a local jw, as they want. i fact i always offer my name and phone number to any jw i meet in the street. if they want to talk more. and you would be surprised . quite a few call. i'm basically a polite person. and have talked with some jw's for months. other last anywhere from 5 minutes to and hour. it's up to them how much truth(facts) they can handle. did i help any jw out of the org. good question. since i'm working from outside of the cong's and don'r know most of the people i speak with personally. I can't say for sure. i do know for fact that one elder i've known for 40 years. after spending months talking to him one on one at his house. really nice guy by the way.(maybe something like Zarco) stepped down as an elder shortly after our little talks. became irregular at the hall. and went out to get a computer . to do some more research. has he left i don't know. his whole family are jw's . most likely not. does he see the wt different now , i'm sure of it. i never told him to get up on the podium and start raging about 1874 ,pyramids and mircle wheat. our talk were held in strict confidence. maybe not for him . but i would never tell other jw's . that know him. that i even spent time with him. b/c non of these other jw's i've known for 40 years would give me the time of day. and would most likely tell him to never talk to me. these are the jw's i've had it out with many times. i started out nice. and got all their faulty reasoning. but time and research was on my side. time after time i would shut down their arguements. to the point . it did become a pissing contest. but i learned to use thier own words against them. to the point were they shut up. and had no more answers. and your talking a lot of work for one man. to take on a whole circuit. yes i will pat myself on the back. the rabid jw's that know of me . keep a safe distance. they are scared to engauge me. why because they know they are going to lose. and i'm going to make them look like dopes infrom of thier flock. and i search them out. if their in f.s. holding up mag's they are fare game. and i show the jw's that follow these prideful ,haughty wt zombies. that they can't even answer the simplest of questions. and let the jw's know their field serv elder is nothing more than a spritual drunkard. and he's not worth respect. i test jw's on their knowlwdge. it's not my fault they get tied up in knots. and in 90% of the cases act like RABID jw's. blame the wt for this not me. wishing everyone well john
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  johnny cip

  yesidid; i'll get you a hanky. wake up to the real world. there is no free ride
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  johnny cip

  let's take a poll; which is more rude? jw's in field serv. 1 house holder: i wouldn't let a jw pet my dog. b/c jw's teach hate . and you may teach the dog to shun/hate me. or 2 if you don't read these mag's and become a jw' you will die SOON. now let me ask all open minded persons here . who was more rude. me with my dog. after getting fucked by the wts . or number 2 the jw that wants to take my house after the big A calls me a goat. a hater of god, and tells me if i don't go back to the kingdum hell. the birds are going to pluck out my eyes. etc. i ask who was RUDER. the jw or me. john
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
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  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  johnny cip

  TO ALL THE POSTERS THAT ARE SCARED SHIT OF JW'S I WAS NOT RUDE TO THE NEW POSTERS, JUST BRINGING OUT SOME POINTS LIKE WHO'S BEEN SCREAMING FIRE IN CROWDED THEATERS. IT'S BEEN THE WT FOR 130 YEARS. JUST LOOK ABOUT AT THE MY BIBLE STORIES BOOK. I'M HAPPY FOR THE NEW POSTERS. AND HOPE THEY FIND WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO BE A WASHY WASHY APOSTATE. AND KISS ASS .I CALL IT THE WAY IS SEE IT. DON'T CONFUSE ME WITH SKALLY. SHE'S ONE HELL OF AN APOSTATE, BUT I'M A WHOLE OTHER BALL GAME. IT MAY COME TO THE POINT WERE I BREAK DOWN EACH ONE OF YOUR POSTS. CRYING ABOUT ME. TILL I GET BANNED FROM THIS SITE AFTER 4 YEARS. FOR BEING a WT-EXPOSER THAT MANY HERE WISH THEY HAD BALLS TO BE. YOU CRY BABIES THINK I NEED TO BE HERE . SHIT I'LL SMOKE A DOZEN JW'S IN FIELD SERVICE . JUST LIKE I DID 2 DAYS AGO. that's why i don;t tell what i do in the field. some crybaby may think i made a spritual dope out of their mommy that , been shunning them for the last 20 years. while they cry every day here that , they hoped someone would tell mommy the facts. well wake up- to the facts. there are people , that do run into your rabid wt worshipping mommy. and engage them for all their theocraptic training is worth. and make them run away crying.
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  AULD SOUL SAID: Most JWs are not rabid, johnny cip. Most don't deserve what Skally suggested END QUOTE... i disagree most active believing jw's are RABID. AND WILL DEFEND THE WT' TO THEIR LAST DROP. and you know this is fact. all you have to do is read the stories here daily about how some faded , no longer a wt believer is getting the shit kicked out of them by their jw family to understand that fullfLedged jw's are RABID . THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR NOT SEEING THIS WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE, on the other hand many jw's that come to these sites , and are looking for an out of the wt. are very different. any rabid jw deserves what skally suggests and even worst. FOR THE TORMENT THAT THEIR RABID JW FAMILY PUTS THEM ThRough. if you can't see this your blind. i will not get into you trying to tie me with skally. i can only speak of her knowledge of the wt. she has wt smarts and nerve and lots of it. a lot more than i can say for most of the people here. i agree her last few posts were overboard, but then again how many people you know that can run into a boat load of jw's and out talk them all on wt doctine. and make them walk away with their tails between their legs. she's one of the few. so back to are jw's RABID i say yes. if you disagree i will link the posts from yesterday from jwd. were many posters here that are trying to leave the wt and that i support holdheartly. talk about how RABID their jw friends family cong etc. treat them. theN we will talk about RABID. JOHN
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  auld soul: if you read my last few post carefully. you would see i said the big bang at the hall is not a do all way. i understand this very much. i was stating ONCE THEY COME AFTER YOU LIKE RABID DOG'S. IT TIME TO TAKE A STAND . AND KICK THE ELDERS , JW'S FAMILY 100X HARDER THAN THEY ARE KICKING YOU. I STILL SAY RABID JW'S AFTER TRYING TOI REASON WITH THEM. THAT STILL ACT LIKE WT ZOMBIES. SHOULD BE KICKED AND DRAGGED THO THE MUD . AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. I SHOW NO QUARTER TO RABID JW ZOMBIES. now if other jw's treat you nice . is say show them the same . do once to other as they do to you.. i will never show respect to . the 100'sw of jw'sw zombies. that kick me. i kick them first. i kick them at the bus stop ,supermarket, where ever. because they EARNED IT. and i win. they run . i talked to 3 jw's ladies that didn't know me today . they were nice and so was i. if they would have pulled their wt b/s they would have been made to look like spritual drunkards. i take no shit , and i look for jw's in the street. and i find them . and i go either way. i'm sure i helped a few out. and the others , that are wt zombie's . can go to hell. been there done that. fuck my father and all his zombie friends, i tried reasoning with them , using the bibloe4, wt's etc, they are just complete DOPES. . I WILL NEVER BE NICE TO SUCH LIARS. AND HYPOCRITES. if people want to come here, and do their thing that's thier business. i wish them the best. but i will be a wtexposer flame thrower . till the day i die. btw you did a great job on the 607 thread with 3rd witness. but i generally have 5 minutes to expose a jw in the street. and 2 months on 607 ain't doing it in 5 minutes. in fact iv'e had meeting with elders on 607 right in the kingdom hqall library. and your lucky to get an hour out of them. i like the U,N, I TELL THE ELDERS i will pay for a couple of school buses down to the U.N. WE WILL take the whole cong. and you can bring a few bethelites alone (lawyers) and we can find all about your libray card b/s since I live in nyc. it's a short trip. after the U>N> we can all go down the the ny stock exchange and find out some more about how the wt has stocks in this and that.. well you think these dopes last 10 minutes with me.? nothing but a bunch of crybabies. but i make them crybabies. is all in the presentation i use. remember when you talk facts to a wt zombie. it's persecution. i find it fun. i make them lie and then , make them know they lied to me. it's an art i learn form the jw's it's called a taste of their own medicine. what is it mat' 5 or 7;12 treat other as you would wanted to be treated. common sense. jw's go out into the street and never expect to run into anyone that can answer them. well they are sorry when i find them . hiding their mag's under their arm pit. i would say 95 out 100 jw;'s i met in the street are heavily brain washed. and nothing will help them. were as about 70% of the jw's that come here and other sites. will walk away. my posts show how to stand up for your self once the shit it's the fan, take what i say or leave it. there are 1000x's of other opinions here. i'm in the minority. i tried being nice to jw family. it don't work for me as i see it don't work for many . so i rip them new assholes every chance. i make them feel guilty about all the false shit they taught me for 40 year. that's my style. and it works for me b/c i know how to make it work. NO IT'S NOT FOR EVERYBODY, TO EACH IS HIS OWN. I ONLY HOPE MY STORY HELPS OUT A FEW. JOHN